UPDATE: Bus Location Change For Seaside Heights Residents
Plan announced to allow residents to get into homes at standing-room-only Borough Council meeting
Seaside Heights resident Charles Lada gestures as he questions why residents haven't been allowed into the borough in the wake of Hurricane Sandy.
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UPDATE, 9 a.m. Friday: Seaside Heights officials posted the following notice on the borough's website: "Due to circumstances beyond our control, the location for the initial re-entry pick-up has been changed. All property owners and tenants must go to 1390 Bay Ave. on their designated days rather than the Fischer Boulevard Foodtown. We apologize for the inconvenience and will have personnel redirecting people to the correct location."
The address given is for Shelter Cove in Toms River, a mile east of Fischer Boulevard.
UPDATE: Seaside Heights residents who have concerns or obstacles to accessing the borough on their designated day can contact borough officials by calling 908-600-6741, Mayor William Akers said Thursday.
Previously: A standing-room-only crowd of Seaside Heights residents learned they will be allowed into the borough to retrieve some of their personal belongings beginning Friday, under a plan distributed at Wednesday night's Borough Council meeting in Toms River.
For nearly three hours, Seaside Heights Mayor William Akers answered questions from residents whose anger over being away from their homes for 10 days in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy spilled over time and again.
"I don't believe anything I'm hearing tonight," said Chuck Lada, one of many residents who criticized the mayor and council over the handling of the re-entry plan in the meeting at the county Administration Building in Toms River, which was filled to overflowing despite the snow brought by a nor'easter that added to the area's miseries as people try to recover from Hurricane Sandy.
Under the plan, which Akers said had to be approved by the state Department of Transportation, residents will be bused into the borough beginning Friday based on where in town they live. Residents should meet at the old Foodtown in the Bellcrest Plaza on Fischer Boulevard in Toms River beginning at 9 a.m. and Akers said the buses would depart for the borough as soon as they are full.
The town is allowed to bring just four buses, Akers said. A box truck also will be traveling over to bring residents' items back.
Two people per residence will be permitted, Akers said, and residents will need to show some identification to show they belong. They can bring two suitcases per person to retrieve belongings, and the borough will provide two boxes per person that will be transported by box truck back to the Bellcrest Plaza.
Residents will have until 2 p.m. to retrieve items and take photos of their homes, shut off their main electric breakers and drain water pipes, under the plan.
The schedule is as follows:
- Friday: Residents of Sherman, Sheridan, Grant and Blaine
- Saturday: Hancock, Fremont, Sumner, Webster
- Sunday: Kearney, Carteret, Hamilton, Franklin
- Monday: Sampson, Hiering, Lincoln, Dupont, Porter
- Tuesday: 400 Hiering/Bayside Terrace. Akers said the damage in this area was more extensive and re-entry may be delayed.
Residents will not be permitted to leave their designated streets while they are in the borough, Akers said.
Akers said getting to this point has been a lengthy process because it required coordination among so many entities, including the other towns on the barrier island, the county Office of Emergency Management, the state Office of Emergency Management, and the state Department of Transportation.
"I have been on conference call after conference call," Akers said, to map out a re-entry plan. "It's a very different communication process."
Residents asked why those who live in South Seaside Park and Seaside Park were allowed onto the island already and why they were allowed to take personal vehicles.
"I thought we had a coordinated effort," Akers said, but those towns moved forward on their own after an initial plan was agreed to, but the DOT "stopped it in its tracks," he said.
The DOT's statement that the roads were unsafe for passenger cars was questioned by many.
"How is it safe for 80,000-pound trucks to go in but not passenger cars?" one woman asked.
"Two suitcases isn't enough," said another woman. "I want my kids' toys."
Akers, who remained calm throughout the meeting, said the rules that were laid down for this re-entry were not what he wanted. He wanted to bring in eight buses, but was told no, he said.
"This isn't our decision," Akers said. "This is DOT and the chiefs of police."
Several residents urged Akers to just allow cars anyway, but Akers refused, saying he wants to be able to get people onto the island again after this initial access. Following the plan approved by the DOT is the best way to make that happen, he said.
"If this was my decision you all could drive in there and get your things," he said. "It's not my decision."
"We are trying to get everyone over there as quickly as possible," he said.
Several residents asked Akers what will be done for those who, due to work or other complications, and he replied the town will try to work with those residents to accommodate their situations. Those with individual issues should contact borough officials, he said.
David Mutton
7:48 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
May God Bless each and everyone of you, hang in their we are all with you. And we are the USA. We will all stick togeather, an things will get back up and running, bigger an better then before. Just hang in........
barbara
9:38 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
trying, but ready for a breakdown. i am housing 3 homeless families, 2 from ss hts and it is so devestating for them.
chris
8:11 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Yes we ARE in the USA, where we have the right to life, liberty and property. We are suppose to be a nation governed by LAWS NOT MEN! The leaders have secured their own belongings and created a new set of rules for the people. It is a violation of civil rights when those rights MATTER MORE THAN EVER.
Chuck Lada
8:34 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Exactly!!! Our corupt politicans led by our Republican County Republican Chairman George Gilmore (who as boro attorney sat on the dias last night) have decided to manage this tradgedy to maximize their finacial gain and if residents have to be abused and mistreated so be it. Wake up people!!! There is no rational explanation to explain why we can't drive our cars in. That's why they would not identify the individuals or agencies responsible for that decision despite being asked repeatedly to do so.
Project Bluebeam
6:12 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Hey chuck, just wait til the Obama administration declares the whole barrier island unsafe and has your property bulldozed to make way for a new wildlife refuge. Agenda 21.
notasellout
8:13 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I think it's fair to question alot of things. Like if it's so unsafe, why are the NY Giants players allowed to go out there for a photo op? There are many people allowed out there to take pictures of the area and site see, but only if you know the officers working the intersection at Fischer Blvd and Rt 37. Enough is enough already!
barbara
9:41 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
what???????? ny giants allowed to go there for photo op? did not hear this, but unbelievable if true. omg...... i am housing 3 homeless families, 2 from the heights, tried to get over twice and was told no way. if this is true, omg, some official needs to explain this.....
Ortley
8:25 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
what about Ortley Beach??
Cindy Sarrecchia
8:46 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
They are letting owners go to Seaside Heights, we need to go see what our Ortley Homes look like and get out things, can some one let us know......
Ortley
8:49 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Amen Cindy....and let us try to save homes that...can be saved !
Pat Suriani
8:53 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Ortley Beach has become the forgotten child...it is disgraceful how we have not been given info...omission is just like lying...the longer homes that can be saved are left festering the more the cost of recovery becomes...not to mention our emotional state
our officials need to get their story together and get a move on
Cindy Sarrecchia
8:54 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Yes! funny Seaside has the same zip code as Ortley and its not fair that Seaside can go on Friday and they are not saying a word for Ortley, this is confusing and I am not happy at all. I would like someone to tell us something.
Chief Wahoo
8:55 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
Chief Wahoo
8:57 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
L avalette
O rtley
S easide Heights
S easide Park
Earl Turner
9:28 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Lying scumbags and thieves!!
barbara
9:36 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
This is a start, but unbelievable. many questions to ask, call your borough officials? No one picks up the phones, been trying for days. Feel for the people of Ortley. My in laws are on bayside terrace and hoping they can go on tuesday, but main concern is how can you only allow 2 senior residents to go and not bring help? The are elderly and need my husbands help to retrieve items, take pics, "do minor repairs" (yea, right). The breaker is already shut off. Very hard for 2 elderly people who are still in a state of shock to have to do this on their own. Also, their car, which has already been deemed totaled by ins co is parked in a&p parking lot, this APX towing i read about on police blotter, do they have to pay for the tow? ins. company wants to come tow but they not allowed in. parents cannot leave their street to clean out car. Will try again to call borough today, sure i will have no luck. Not real concerned with them and the car, can be towed to my demolished home in toms river off fischer blvd. i have 3 homeless families living with me, 2 from seaside. My daughter gets to go on sunday and she is in tears. this is horrible. these people trying to retrieve their belongings need help from family members to pack up what they can, etc. yes, i also don't understand why trucks can be let over there and we cant follow in at least one car and help daughter and especially in laws.
voice of reason
9:45 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Amazeing that even during a crisis like this politics still hindering progress South Seaside Park was allowed in which is Berkeley Township but when Toms River found out the stoped it through Trenton because the hadnt acted first for The Heights the bridge is not unsafe that was the reason they used to stop it its a disgrace
Chuck Lada
10:24 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Berekley Township has a Democratic Mayor. Gilmore doesn't control him.
However once Berkley let cars in on Monday they abrutly stopped it before tuesday.
Gilmore probably got Christie to cal the mayor and threaten to take away his FEMA allocation if he diin't follow Gilmore's plan.
No one cares about the mental anguish of the residents (taxpayers). THIS IS A BIG MONEY GRAB. Wake up people.
Chief Wahoo
11:41 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Berkeley does NOT have a democratic mayor.....
Fatty Amato is as much a puppet for Gilmore as Kermit is for Jim Henson
Project Bluebeam
6:16 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
It's a by land grab by leftist, pro-Agenda 21 environmentalists.
Earl Turner
9:54 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
My Mother is 78 and recently widowed.She owns a house in Seaside as do my wife and I.How can my Mother do any of this??? My neighbor was going back and forth over the bridge with his volunteer fire fighter friend everyday,so was the owner of Hemingway's,bada-bing$$$$..They are going to steal every dime donated for this disaster.
Mobilelizard
10:03 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
What actual law is being followed when police decides that a citizen is not allowed to access own property? What does federal law say? Any attorneys here care to chime in? This sounds extremely strange in the light of heavy trucks being allowed where light cars are not. Or setting limits on suitcases and amount of hours. How is that even legal?
Chuck Lada
10:28 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
In my oppinion they are usings the "emergency powers" that state laws allow in times of "state of emergency". That is why the barrier islands are still in a state of emergency. It grants the local governments broad powers which in my oppinion they are abusing for there own finacial gain. I know for a fact they are granting sweetheart contracts to insider contractors using the powers of this law. The amount of sucking on FEMA money can be heard 20 miles inland.
Chuck Lada
10:53 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Until the governor lifts "the state of emergency", these local governments are free to do whatever they want including ignoring your constitutional property rights. Now you can understand why they are repeating and exagertaing claims of sink holes in the roads.
The longer they have these "emergency powers" the more no-bid contracts that they can let out to the cronies. Wake up people. this huirricane is past the danger phase and is solidly in the money grabbing phase. FEMA will be wrighting a huge check to cover all these no bid sweatheart contracts
Mobilelizard
3:44 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
That's kinda what I thought as well. Thanks Chuck!
chris
10:15 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
It's in the Bill Of Rights, the 5th amendment,. ....nor be derived of life, liberty or property without due process of the law. It does not mention anything about cops and firemen taking their buddies over. It also doesn't suggest that our leaders are any more or less important than the working man!
Rich
10:47 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
You can't contact Borough officials because their phones are down and only the Tom's River Police and Dover Township OEM is fielding calls and can't answer questions. What is the lead agency preventing cars but allowing 25 ton busses, is that safe?
Insurance adjusters from National Flood and other insurance companies need to gain access with homeowners to determine the damage and therafter contractors need to provide estimates. When are these people going to be allowed to enter?
Governor Christie said to cut the red tape to allow residents to get the work done on their homes, nj.gov.
How about some answers
barbara
12:37 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
been trying all morning, this sucks!!!!!!! true, t.r. police ane OEM are fielding calls and not giving answers...unbelievable!
JHill
10:57 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
The only people that have been allowed in have been contractor's and developer's. Believe me this country is hurting for cash so they are going to do anything within their power (including TAKING your land) to generate more tax dollars.
They would rather have a 4 story mansion paying taxes rather than a 1 story bungalow.
Be careful people as it happened in Long Branch just a few years ago and was perfectly legal and upheld by the courts.
George Lee
11:13 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
The only way is a Broad law suit Against Toms River. They should be pititioning
the State for access on our behalf. Our own goverment is causing further damage
to our homes and they should take financial responsibility.
Lee
Earl Turner
11:14 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I have 35,000$ loss of use on my homeowners policy.LLoyds of London told us our insurance is NOT going to cover ANYTHING...We don't know what we are going to do.We had no mortgage on our house,everything is going to be a loss.My wife is physically and psychologically wrecked over all of this,not so much the storm,the way we are being treated by the Seaside Heights police.They are in charge of this.I know other people have it worse.Look what this country is doing to the people in the Middle East.This is called Karma.
Tina
11:30 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
my street access is monday, and since my husband and I already loss so much work already we can't make it. they say they would accomodate those individuals. how are we to call the officials if the phones are down? would have been nice if the mayor had given a number for us to call. i will be re-locating and i would love to have my furniture from my apartment. i understand the roads may not be safe now but i agree how is it safe for those 80,000 ton vehicles but not for a pickup or a small box truck. i just want to move on and start over all ready.
Chuck Lada
11:43 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I just called the boro hall and it is closed!!! This callous disregard for the residents is beyond description.
You can try to call the boro offices at 732-793-9100 and let it ring. Bill is working and picked it up after about 25 rings. He is the one who told me that they are closed today...Good Luck!!!
Chief Wahoo
11:46 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
im very sad to read these posts......i guess the dumbdown and cradle to grave society is now complete
STOP LOOKING FOR GOVERNMENT TO HELP YOU AND HELP YOURSELVES !
STOP LOOKING FOR GOVERNMENT TO LEAD YOU AND LEAD YOURSELVES !
Kim
12:01 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
@ Chuck Lada...Berkeley's mayor is a Republican. Get your fact's straight before you open your mouth.
Chuck Lada
12:31 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I appolgize, the prior mayor Varrano was a Democrat and I forgot about the change in Berkley. It doesn't detract from my main point that "Boss Hog" Gilmore is the reason why we can't drive our cars onto the island. But if you were at the meeting you saw him sitting next to Mayor like a wooden indian while he wass adding up the amount of money he will reap from this tradgedy.
Project Bluebeam
6:18 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
It's a by land grab by leftist, pro-Agenda 21 environmentalists.
chris
12:05 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
We'd be more than happy to lead ourselves, our government is standing in the way. They say to move on, we are, but ought not be derived our property without due process. It is an INALIENABLE RIGHT. The 5th amendment protects us from this. But we are no longer governed by laws, we are governed by men.
Earl Turner
12:51 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
What chris said.....
Ortley
1:13 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
People....please stop with the"we shouldn't rebuild" been on the beach and never had a claim in 40 yrs ! Because we don't "vote" in Toms River FEMA will give us.....ZERO towards what happened. I pay insurance every quarter and never used it.....yeah do that math ok.....I will rebuild for the first time ever and I do pay very high taxes to Toms River. I think half the responses here are jealous people that are glad something happened to "the rich people"...that have something they could never get but would have loved to have had. By the way....we are far from being rich,just made a good choice years ago.
Flame suit is on now .
Toni O'Boyle
1:14 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
http://www.change.org/petitions/nj-office-of-emergency-management-allow-residents-of-the-barrier-islands-access-to-their-homes
KEEP CALLING CHRISTIE'S OFFICE (609) 292-6000
Governor Christie has been silent about this since the beginning and is keeping us from our homes. The STATE is keeping us from our homes. This bus tactic is to corral us like cattle and not let us see that our community is okay when they tell us it is not.
Chuck Lada
1:27 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Can you get this petition link onto the "Barnegat Bay Island Recvery" Facebook page. It was started for the 1,000 people who came to Toms River Holiday Inn Monay at 6:00PM to demand access to their home. I sure you will a lot of signatures. Good Luck
barbara
1:30 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Very frustrating today and all week trying to make calls and get info. called APK towing and they will only tow car from sshts if in driveway. my in laws moved car to a&p parking lot, they tell me that is ortley and they cant tow there, the guy thinks army removed all cars. so i call t.r. police to find out and "they don't know" seriously, so tired of hearing "i don't know" on other questions also from tr pd. Anyone out there know? well on a good note, their cat was rescued monday from their home and we were told it was at four different places, finally found her today at barnegat after getting round around. as far as the lady "Jeannie" who works for ASPCA, you are the ruddest person I ever had to deal with and hope you lose your job!
barbara
9:41 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
mistake, not jeannie, janice.....hope someone from ASPCA sees this and fires her nasty butt! Left message.
chris
1:31 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
A lot of us are ok with the shuttle idea, the problem is this suitcase nonsense! People are being told to move ahead with their lives, sure would be easier with clothing. Oh, I think rich people are awesome, a poor man never gave me a job!
Chief Wahoo
1:44 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
think this might be happening in New Jersey ????
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/nyregion/cuomo-fires-new-yorks-emergency-management-chief.html?hp
Chuck Lada
2:51 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Does a Chicken have lips?
Why do think they are keeping us off the barrier island? One reason is so we can't watch government employees fix their homes and businesses at our expense.
Ken G
2:39 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Survivors who have been rescued recently told me there's much more going on that is being covered up.....you residents should demand to know EVERYTHING.
Mobilelizard
3:47 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Like what? Genuinely curious...
Bernice Poli
5:45 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
so what did they say..please share. The more info the better..let it roll...
voice of reason
5:10 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Why is Toms River handling the business of Seside Heights ? Where is there Mayor and Police Chief ?
barbara
5:17 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
i would like an answer to that also, must have been reading my mind.
barbara
5:16 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
where are all the seaside officials? haven't been able to contact any of them. Toms River P.D. not much of help on phone........discouraging
Catherine Galioto
5:21 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Hello, Toms River has announced a plan for barrier island resident access. Check out this update: http://tomsriver.patch.com/articles/toms-river-barrier-island-residents-re-entry-plan-begins-friday
Project Bluebeam
6:23 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
When you have your meetings, beware of strangers. You will most likely be infiltrated by Agenda 21 proponents employing the Delphi Technique and Hegelian Dialectic. Familiarize yourselves with these terms and how to spot their use!
Karen Wall
6:41 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Folks, several asked about how to contact borough officials about issues with access on assigned days. Mayor William Akers said the temporary number is 908-600-6741.
Tina
10:25 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Karen, thank you for publishing this phone number I spoke to someone at the number and boy do I feel 10 times better! I will be going to my scheduled date, although I hate leaving my things there, I can at least get some of my stuff and important papers.
Dino
10:11 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
dino,
I am not a child going to school that I have to be Bused to my house.
The streets are clean. I think Seaside Heights officials are incompetent. They are still getting a salary for doing what?
Barnegat Ray
10:50 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
I live in Ortley full time. I want to be part of a coalition.
I cannot believe the people in these towns have accepted these terms without a fight.
We are being treated unfairly and like we are in kindergarten.
Take out what we can carry on our lap in the bus??? My winter clothes alone wouldn't fit on my lap!
What about personal papers, photo albums, electronics, guns, valuables???
Why must we choose what will stay, and be destroyed further by the mold and moisture?
This country was built on self reliancy, not by depending on local government.
Why are we letting them do this to us and everything we worked so hard for???
Have we no backbone anymore?
I will be part of any coalition to bring this to an end...I will be a front runner if need be, but we need to do something now...before it is too late.
romulusmedusa@aol.com
201-655-4717
Barnegat Ray
10:50 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
I live in Ortley full time. I want to be part of a coalition.
I cannot believe the people in these towns have accepted these terms without a fight.
We are being treated unfairly and like we are in kindergarten.
Take out what we can carry on our lap in the bus??? My winter clothes alone wouldn't fit on my lap!
What about personal papers, photo albums, electronics, guns, valuables???
Why must we choose what will stay, and be destroyed further by the mold and moisture?
This country was built on self reliancy, not by depending on local government.
Why are we letting them do this to us and everything we worked so hard for???
Have we no backbone anymore?
I will be part of any coalition to bring this to an end...I will be a front runner if need be, but we need to do something now...before it is too late.
romulusmedusa@aol.com
201-655-4717
Ortley wants out of Toms River
9:05 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
Great point Ray. When we are allowed back in on a full time basis I will give you a call and maybe we can get something done as far as moving on from Toms River Township. I'm sure there will be plenty of us that have had enough of this TR bull s--- We should all stop paying our taxes (I know it's not possible) and hit them where it hurts (in the pocket). It's been almost 5 weeks and I've been to my home 2 times, the mold is out of control, and next thing you know they are going to condem these house because they are a health hazard. IT'A DAMN SHAME.
KB
8:00 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
No one in Lavallette, Ortley Beach, Seaside Heights, Seaside Park, South Seaside Park should pay property taxes until permanent access is allowed.No property, no taxes.
Ortley wants out of Toms River
9:06 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
AMEN
barbara
9:42 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
KB, received email from my in laws association letter update that seaside hts is giving residents a break, they don't have to send in their tax bill until 12/17 withouth penalities. are they serious?
Bernice Poli
5:49 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
how do they know this? A letter was not sent to everyone. Is their any proof?
realestgurl@msn.com
Tina
10:29 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
FYI they have moved the location for the buses AGAIN. its now Sears...please keep checking website since they seem to keep changing everything. also it now says the trucks can be used for large items, not furniture what is that supposed to mean?
Bernice Poli
5:52 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Do they say you can bring a vehicle? I am sure they have cleaned out their homes and it took them longer than 4 hours. We have damage here and 4 hours in not enough to take out water laden furniture and sheet rock and wood. Get with the program officials..we are the tax paying homeowners who support this community, you better take head because next you will be removed from your positions...Never doubt the voting public and or pissed off homeowners.
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